I wouldn't put Uxie higher than Mew since Mew can also run an offensive set, but Uxie should be considered on the list at least. It lowers the power of Water-type moves. That being said, it is an excellent Pokemon. I used hammer arm against a bulky variant of rotom-heat cause as you mentioned we need a set with good coverage. These Pokemon require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be compensated for when compared to their positive traits. I could get behind Mandibuzz but the other two are too situational to be A rank imo. You must log in or register to reply here. No Sceptile already had legitimate success on it's own before the Heracross ban that I thought it was kinda silly that we didn't rank it before. While all non-Uber Pokmon can be used in OU, only those Pokmon that make up at least 4. Also you forgot to add executtor and victrebeel in B- rank. Standard: $4.99 a month (Beginner plan + Standard website builder), Premium: $7.48 a month (Beginner plan + Premium website builder), Connect Domain: $5 a month (not available in the US, unfortunately), Shared Starter: $6.99 a month (1 website), Shared Unlimited: $12.99 a month (unlimited websites). Again thanks for the constructive criticism, the opinions of everyone is greatly appreciated. Web. For example, you can't just say "Pokemon X shouldn't be this tier because they aren't used that often!". If you have any further questions about this, please start a conversation with me on here or discord instead of posting it in this thread. Generally any pokemon is better if you EV train, gets a great nature and you go through the additional tedium of grinding to level 60+. An S mon simply isnt stopped coldly by the 2 most used pokes in the tier (rotom-h and mandi). Web. The world is ending. These discussions will influence future updates to the rankings. Ability Levitate. Great bulk, great attacking stats and a fantastic movepool, anyone? Edit: Let me elaborate. Chople Berry. . This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. What Rapidash CAN do is attack Garchomp before it can move, which is very important when the Pokmon in question is infamous for being a butcher. Pokemon from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used Pokemon. up. Coverage-wise, Fighting / Rock / Ground / Filler is pretty much everything it needs. I apologize if this post is kind of all over the place, but I had a lot to say about it and tried my best to condense it, and make it somewhat understandable, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Keep in mind NEW Pokemon will begin to appear in the Wild and The Grand Underground after you have obtained the National Dex. Web. View strategies and more for Mew on the Smogon Strategy Pokedex. It has a permanent ladder on Pokmon Showdown. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Atk and Sp. Sorry for any confusion. An S mon doesn't possess a 4mss metagross possess, and a S mon shouldn't lose against all offensive pokemon that feature in top 15 besides Crobat. It helps no one if the mods are forced to lock this thread. 52% of total weighted usage in the tier are designated OU. Web. I cannot see Gyarados on the list - is it that outclassed rn? A Speed-boosting nature will also need to come at the detriment of a defensive stat as Rapidash wants both attacking stats, further reducing its lacklustre bulk. This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. About Rotom, yeah, you're probably right. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Web. DD scrafty can only set up for almost free against 3out of the 15 top used mons in UU. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Web. Outrage Dragon Claw. Weaknesses Water (2), Ice (4) Held Item Toxic Orb. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. 84. level 2. The top of the list I mostly agree with, especially the mons in the S-A+ range. You're right that they can't switch in, but it doesn't beat them 1v1 without significant prior damage and/or good prediction, even on a free switch. Keep in mind NEW Pokemon will begin to appear in the Wild and The Grand Underground after you have obtained the National Dex. 252 Atk Guts Heracross Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Metagross: 120-142 (77.4 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Web. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO, Can you calc with sun? -Metagross i commented about in the previous comment.. look above.. i believe people have yet to catch up on hoe powerful it is. B Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the UU metagame. reserving for future use -- you may post now! I've used the line twice, once on Diamond (I went through two Sinnoh test runs on Diamond and Pearl, big mistake) and once on Platinum, and it died in the mid-game on both occasions. Weaknesses Water (2), Ice (4) Held Item Toxic Orb. 252+ Atk Heracross Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 78-92 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery///252+ Atk Heracross Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Bronzong: 84-100 (48.2 - 57.4%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery////252+ AtkHeracross Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 108-127 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery, With that being said, you can still outstall it with jelli/vaporeon, Flame orb set- This set, is like any other heracross, if brought in correctly will force a switch, but you get the added bonus of potentially getting a swords dance off. It has red eyes, a long snout, and ears. Resource - BDSP OU Sample Teams Smogon Forums The moderators of this forum are Eve, 6Roggenrolas, and Lalaya . Failure to follow these rules after warning(s) will result in an infraction or possibly a ban depending on the severity of the offenses. I've never used the line on a nuzlocke run and it performed above my expectations. -Absol now struggles a lot more than before and thats mainly due to the meta being more offensive than before.. now it cant switch into anything or setup into anything. A short or maybe not-so-short video series talking about SM UU on Smogon with your host King UU. I believe Sableye and Keckleon both deserve rankings, judging off their competition rankings here, I'd say Sable is at B+ or B and Keck is at B or B-. quot;>. i've never used one, mind, and if i have, it's always been as an hm mule lol. Web. Introduction Latios was the premier offensive Pokmon throughout its stay in BDSP OU. I can assure you that the VR Council already knows the obvious qualities and we are far more interested in understanding why you believe it has increased or decreased in viability. There are just many teams for which another Pokemon that can fulfill its primary roles in a way that better matches the team. Web. If there was one pokemon that did not deserve the untimely end that my team suffered against the Elite Four, it was Lickilicky, but unfortunately I needed it to Surf Flint's entire team to death due to Machamp's demise v Bertha and everything else (Electivire and Mr. And that's if it survives long enough to evolve in the first place. Def. Also, there will be a C+ and a C in our VR now as several pokemon find themselves sitting there to warrant a split. JavaScript is disabled. That fat blob was the MVP of my Platinum run, being the sole survivor of a mid-game disaster that killed the rest of my team and remaining a key player throughout. Absolutely no flaming, personal attacks, or general idiocy will be tolerated. Maybe A- can be more representative. Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. po wu Web. Web. Question: I haven't played much BDSP yet, but I used to play DPP on Shoddy back in the day. At the end of every turn, holder restores 116 of its max HP. Both mandi forretress and bronzong are able to stop an already +1 dragon dance Scrafty. In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokmon (this implies that the Pokmon is obtainable before the player has defeated the Elite Four and Champion) into tiers. You also get psybeam at kadabra at level 16 and if you're trading can literally get an alakazam at level 16. Posts like "I think pokemon X should be in this tier" will be deleted and infracted if it is a repeat issue. Scrafty is nowhere close to be an A+, thing is B+ at very best. Its a gimmick, but since FB cant miss with No Guard, and it has a high Base Power, it can still do more than it really should. This metagame is run by Eve and a council. Fight me. Web. this thread is dead lmao also gengar is banned take them off the viability ranking now plz, This is both a nom and also just me talking about a Pokemon I like using and think more people should use, [Please excuse our look during the redesign :)], +2 252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 523-616 (73.2 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Speaking of Metagross. Leftovers. Sign up for a new account in our community. Bisharp is a great anti-offense pokemon which exploits the best wall in UU(mandibuzz) and most other walls struggle to stop it aswell. Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. Alakazam also gets psychic at level 40 if you haven't gotten the TM for psychic yet. I recently ran another run of Platinum, and the first thing I did was catch a Starly and call it &x27;UUBL&x27;. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. Single use. If you do not know what a viability thread entails read further. Its not the best Pokmon ever, sure, but base 105 speed and base 100 attack do significant damage, and Base 80 SpA is enough for STAB Fire Blast. These Pokemon are able to perform a variety of roles very effectively, or can just do one extremely well. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. The pokemon tier list below consists of the Sinnoh Pokedex, these pokemon you will be able to catch in your play through of the game. You are using an out of date browser. With that said, the thing that jumps out to me as the most confusing is how espeon is A+ and alakazam is A - is Alakazam not like, better? Rapidash is not going to like taking the incoming STAB Psychic if it misses. With all that being said, heracross is still a great pokemon, and it does it's job well at being able to force switches and sacks, but it has its flaws, most notably being it doesn't like to switch in often if hazardsare on the field, because the combination of flame orb and hazards adds up after a couple switches.. Ontop of all that, UU is pretty hyper offensive right now, with sun teams/screen teams running wild, there isa lot of priority and faster pokemon floating around that make it difficult to utilize it to its full ability. S Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the UU metagame. Again, please keep discussion civil. Hey! Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. I don't know if this is only my opinion, but I don't know if Flygon is head-and-shoulders the best Pokemon in the tier. June 9, 2015. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It was already deemed too strong once, prompting the first suspect test in BDSP OU that eventually resulted in a close No Ban vote. 1415 Gliscor. Let's break down each one and see why exactly that is! Web. We all know that UU is home to many bulky Waters and Steels that make balance cores nearly unbreakable. BDSP Technical Machine Attacks; TM Attack Name Type Cat. Smogon University SmogonU Zero to hero just like that Palafin is a real glow up story of a little dolphin that only wanted to become a 650 BST beast of Pokmon and destroy any and all opposition You can check out more discussion in our Uncharted Territory forum smogon.comforumsforums 11 27 493 Show this thread. I am still undecided if we should move Metagross yet, feel free to discuss it as well. 1415 Gliscor. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. It doesnt seem to me that the 2 pokemons coldly stop metagross. Just wanna clarify that BDSP UU is currently in Alpha, meaning nothing will be banned until January. Moves, EVs, and more for pokemon like Scizor, Clefable and Garchomp. Just wanna clarify that BDSP UU is currently in Alpha, meaning nothing will be banned until January. Both Alakazam and Lucario also have other counters that are more viable team options. And under no circumstances should any of them be facing off against Garchomp, even with, as you say, a 70BP Hidden Power Ice (good luck getting that, too!). Its just that it doesn't strike me as a S pokemon(neither does metagross or other uu) Its not really versatile, has a fewcounters/checks, suffers 4 move slot syndrome, and its weak to rocks. 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